Take Me With You:..:..:.W/DEmo   Matthews & Hoeve /Productions/Lyrics by Shirley E.Matthews/CoWritttenJohnny Hoeve

That’s right; attack the messenger. Losers. I see you punked out on the challenge to post where you’ll get serious critiques. You’re only fooling yourselves.

JD

JD Stenzel - 02 April 2010 08:09 PM

That’s right; attack the messenger. Losers. I see you punked out on the challenge to post where you’ll get serious critiques. You’re only fooling yourselves.

JD

LOL, ironically, resorting to name-calling makes someone else the loser!  Thanks for showing who you really are, JD.

James I really don’t mind taking song to justplainfolks. I have a unused account there. But on the whole if a critique or rather suggestion doesn’t give a new inspiration I myself am not too concerned with it. I more and more started to think that songs should be more personal (well depending for what style/market to song is meant) and that it is okay or even a big plus when a personality shines through a lyric. Because then it gets really original. And there are lots of succesful songs where the songwriters didn’t know exactly the meaning of what they were writing down. Just because it sounded okay to do so. (“the movement you need is on your shoulder” - as I understand it Maccartney himself wanted it out, he didn’t know what it was saying but everyone else around said NOOOO! best line in song - so it all depends). I myself have no problems with the lyric and must say they get better hearing it more.

Nathan..you and I have been on this amazing journey together….:) ...you have given me so
many suggestions and forethought About My Lyrics..I have always been so very fond of’‘How
youre able to’‘tell an Fable..your Story telling abilities..has always had me in awe….
Especially ther ones about’‘War..:)..which can be an difficult Piece to write about…

**** Nathan I’m so happy that you took out time To comment
on this Piece….as yes My Friend..you understand The depth of
emotions I was conveying with this Piece,,and you understood that Metaphors
can really serve it’s purpose’‘:)

:)
Thanx..
Nathan
Shirl;o

Whoa,,BC I have only know you a short while..but You have some very very strong
classic Songs..okay let me give you an example..’‘Majority of The times I REad’‘
The Lyrics first before I log on to The Demo…So After REading..’‘A Perfect Love
song~~,,I always hear a melody lol…:)...it like Pat;s Lyrics…has an’’  melody
type persona before I actually Hear The Music Production..There is such’‘
A peaceful calm About This song I truly enjoy..BC..’’ A timeless Piece,,,,
that can capture’‘many Generations…although It;s lengthy.. it does not matter
It just exhibits how well mastered this Piece is…Ah——:)..

Dude,,it means a lot to me that you stopped by..:)
to comment on this song~~thanx for props..

Shirl;o

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:):)..Mike… I really think very highly of you not only as An Musician/Writer/..but as a man with wisdom..
and a very good judgment of Character,,I;m really spell bound by your ability to master and Create good
Music..

You have a wonderful sense of humor,I;m in awe of you because you don;t appear to
be ‘‘an closed minded individual…:)..you seem to embrace Change..and diversity..never partial
To any particular way of thinking… I was looking’‘over your Takes’‘for this Piece..I could not help but smile..:)
you have sum up this Piece very well thanx for breaking it down..it was really fun to see how your mind tick..
hmmmmmm.:) it;s always a joy talking to ya..:)  thanx for stopping By..;o Mike..

Shirl;o

‘‘Whoa.. Scully.. its always good to hear from you..Youre an amazing person

with so much Love and inspiration To give,,,the World through Your Music,,‘don;t never
never Give up the quest Scully~`:);;I still have those visions of you playing..
time square…:)...those were the days my friend..;o
Thanx for stopping by

Shirl;o

:):).. Johnny Hoeve,,Whoa,,dude..we have some very interesting comments coming,,
down..lol.Johnny..it seems like yesterday,,when We first met…. I knew after talking
to you ;;over many many hours..of conversing..that you understood’‘What I was
about as it related’ to my vision of creating’‘songs that inspire….Johnny I feel
very deeply that we were ~~ Destined to meet…and Oh Yes !! Johnny it has been
an amazing journey.,,,Youre a very very talented/Musician/writer..Johnny….
you took a chance on me..and that my friend I will always cherish..until
the day I Die~....:)....Thanx for believing in me Johnny..:)

SEe you in a few;o
Shirl;o

What’s the matter; did I huwt yo feewings? Grow a skin, and some balls—at least enough to post your name, so I can go check your tripe list. I’m positive I’ll find tripe wherever you’ve posted your material, because you defend weak writing, meaning…you’re into weak writing. Those who are afraid of critiques shouldn’t post in public. just go off in the corner and belly-bump yourselves into thinking your songs are fabulous—what the hell ever. “Loser” wasn’t name-calling; it was exactly accurate. You lose when you turn your noses up to good advice. It’s all good; I won’t offer a word to you in the future, and that will be that. Good luck to you. The operative word being…LUCK.

JD

You’re still afraid to post this for critiques at JPF I see lol. If you did, you’d see that most writers there would back up my critique of this piece.

J.D,

Like you have any credentials to give you leverage to give you the right to critique any of our stuff. You base your critiques on your feeling towards the author, you patronize people for political reasons, and if you don’t like us as people you write us off as people who are no good to your cause. You’re the one who needs some skin, you are aggressively sensitive about how people look at your songs, so you attack them if they are negative. And if people have to define their work because you don’t “get it” then you get all “I’m better than you” about it. How about not only growing a skin, but grow up to.

IHS,

S-Bone

If everyone followed a set of rules there would never be any progression.

People can have an opinion on something, but at the end of the day it still doesn’t make it a fact.

You may love something, the next person might hate it. But that’s your own personal opinion. Just because you believe something’s right, doesn’t make it right. Just because you believe something’s wrong doesn’t make it wrong.

How can any one of us say to the next person on here “You have no clue what you’re talking about”. You don’t know what they know.

Also, if people do write and post for their own personal pleasure, so what?

Honestly, it’s ridiculous.

Shirley, when I read the line “Look up and see those heart shaped skies”, I thought of heart shaped clouds filling the sky. How clouds form shapes and if you’re in love then maybe that’s what you’ll see. The beautiful thing about words is that it paints a picture that each person can interpet differently.

Just giving my opinion, God bless you all.

“You can’t take anything direct yourself. I’ve yet to see you take any criticism without hitting those who think your writing could use some adjusting” (S-Bone)

Oh really? Show me examples where I took criticism badly. If I disagree with a critique I don’t get mad…I get dismissive. Show me smart ###! You think I critique based on whether or not I like someone? FOOL! Get a clue. It’s ALWAYS about the SONG, not the author. I don’t know you well enough to give a crap about you one way or another personally. If your work is outstanding, I say so. If it’s garbage I tell you where it’s weak; that’s it. Get off your trip about me even caring enough about you personally enough to diss you based on politics or anything else. You’re not a blip on my radar.

As for freestyle writing for one’s own pleasure…Shirley talks markets. Markets imply sales. Are you dense or just irritating?

JD

Hell;o.. Bermy..~~it’s nice to see ya…:)... I don’t particularly like My Lyrics..Being called’‘Bipolar.but I always consider The source in which it comes from..,,so James cool it..dude do you honestly Think’’ Johnny Hoeve didn’t know about’‘time lines..:)..Etc..~~~`
James Johnny Had an Band ..and He has been producing Music for many years so..Let’s relax now
..Johnny is very well verse about the pitfalls..and the ‘‘mindset ‘‘of the Music Industry..:);).

. We both knew that this Piece would’‘go up against the grain..’‘we knew that ‘‘certain elements of this Piece might appear ‘‘outdated..but we both were willing to take a chance..:)..so here we are….:)...James I won’t deny you the opportunity to comment at my post..if you decide to opt out that’s your prerogative..:)..I think we all stand to gain and learn from’‘these types of song posts..that generate..input from all walks of life,,,,....:)’‘with that said….:)

****Bermy ,,hmmmmm…Yes..youre expressing exactly’‘the imagery I wanted to project with this particular piece.. “Look up and see those heart shaped skies..matter of fact this is one of my favorite lines,,:0..  What I was doing was shooting for a higher plain…a different
way to tweak those lines…and That’s the Way I roll..I never comform ‘‘to no set rules’‘or ways of Thinking ..When I write songs~~

:)

Bermy….:)
it was a joy talkin
to you..

Thanx for stopping by to comment~~~

:)
Shirl;o

I have to say, I really don’t understand the song. purple crystals makes me think of Drugs and I don’t think that is what you meant. If it is morning and you are waking up like in the beginning where do you want the person to take you? I am not understanding it Shirl..

J.D,
Dismissing/Smart ### is the same to me, and it also is arrogant, and snobbish.

Jesus said for us to call no man a FOOL(in case you read the Word of God).

As far as freestyle vs. Sales goes. Anything can happen, and you being old enough to be my parent should know better than that.

Thank God I’m not blip on your radar, because I’ve set my standard way high than that. You must really think highly of yourself if you think that should matter to me.

Despise not the small beginnings my friend.

The reason I think you attack the author instead of the lyric, is because if you don’t like it, you make it personal, instead of productive. You say grow some skin, I say grow a conscience and treat people the way you would want to be treated. You are in no position to tell people to get tough if you just brush off advise other people give you, if you were you wouldn’t say anything at all for that matter.

IHS,

S-Bone