Forgiven - Evans and Stokes

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Jun 11, 2017, 03:54 PM

Just wrapped another one! This time featuring the wonderful Jenny Stokes on vocals AND piano. Are we getting any better at mixing those vocals in? I’m also using a different guitar tone on this one.

SOUNDCLOUD
https://soundcloud.com/user-717882623/forgiven

YOUTUBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yy2EEG8ywo


FORGIVEN

Verse 1:
The highway to Hell
The road most taken

Reached for my angel
The darkness faded


Chorus:
My heart is open
Power courses through my veins
I’m forgiven

I walk the valley
With everything to gain
No fears to weaken
I am forgiven


Verse 2:
Fire and brimstone
Now forgotten

Surrender the fight
And be delivered


Bridge:
I thought I was too far gone
Believing the Devil’s song
Snatched from a burning fate
By the gift the angel gave

Chains broken by your hand
You take in the guilty man
Now I rest in your embrace
Now I am forgiven


Chorus:
My heart is open
Power courses through my veins
I’m forgiven

I walk the valley
With everything to gain
No fears to weaken
I am forgiven

{solo}

Outro:
Chains broken by your hand
You take in the guilty man
Now I rest in your embrace
Now I am forgiven

 
     
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John Evans Joined Oct 01, 2016
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Jun 11, 2017, 06:59 PM

yep, those vocals are right up front loud n proud! great job! love that Em7 Jenn :)
perhaps just a little too much “crunch compression” on the drums, but overall
everything balances out nicely! nice melodic solo, kudos!  :)

 
     
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JAPOV Joined Jul 02, 2006
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Jun 12, 2017, 06:56 PM

Thanks Tony. This one came together pretty quick for us.

 
     
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John Evans Joined Oct 01, 2016
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Jun 13, 2017, 09:09 PM

I love the words in this song.  I think the chorus is powerful :). I’m not a sound expert, but I like the way the vocals are mixed in for the most part.  In the first chorus, though, I did have a hard time hearing some of the words, so that might be one to look at.  I liked the other chorus though.

I really like how the drums and guitars are mixed on this song.  The drums are nice and punchy, you can feel it in your chest when the base is turned up :)

 
     
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Teresa Anderson-Comer Joined May 29, 2016
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Jun 14, 2017, 06:58 PM

Some of the images are, well, mysterious——not a bad thing. Like ‘The darkness faded’—-does that mean hell was escaped? If so, wouldn’t that mean hell fire was escaped?

Or am I just not getting it?

I DO like the imagery…

‘Charlie Christian got me in a world of trouble’—-me

 
     
joel fass Joined Jun 03, 2017
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Jun 15, 2017, 03:56 AM

Thanks Tony. Glad the minor key works here. It was a late insert to the song that took the tune in a very different direction. The song started out upbeat and entirely major but it was rather ordinary like that so out came the minor.

Thank you Teresa. I’m so glad you like the lyrics. This song started its life on the wordy side. Then, when it was mostly finished, I turfed the lot and started again with a more off-set, minor sound and a far more spartan approach to telling the story. My aim in using a more spartan lyric was that I could then boost the intensity of the WHOLE song (lyrics AND music) quite significantly in the bridgy bit.

So glad you like the imagery, Joel. While I am not averse to writing cryptic lyrics, I was definitely not going for mysterious with this one. “Reached for my angel, the darkness faded” simply means the angel brought light. I might have to rethink that line if folks aren’t getting my meaning. Hmm.
Thanks guys.

[ Edited: 17 June 2017 09:27 PM by Jenny Stokes]

https://soundcloud.com/jennystokes-nz
http://www.evansandstokes.com

“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain”
- Bob Marley

 
     
Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Jun 15, 2017, 05:16 AM
joel fass - 14 June 2017 06:58 PM

Some of the images are, well, mysterious——not a bad thing. Like ‘The darkness faded’—-does that mean hell was escaped? If so, wouldn’t that mean hell fire was escaped?

Or am I just not getting it?

I DO like the imagery…

I think John n Jenn are wary of going too heavily “theological/zionistic/christian”...etc.
Jenn was probably more focused on imagery and just painting a pleasant universally
acceptable picture :)

 
     
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Jun 15, 2017, 10:44 AM
JAPOV - 15 June 2017 05:16 AM
joel fass - 14 June 2017 06:58 PM

Some of the images are, well, mysterious——not a bad thing. Like ‘The darkness faded’—-does that mean hell was escaped? If so, wouldn’t that mean hell fire was escaped?

Or am I just not getting it?

I DO like the imagery…

I think John n Jenn are wary of going too heavily “theological/zionistic/christian”...etc.
Jenn was probably more focused on imagery and just painting a pleasant universally
acceptable picture :)

A little mystery is a GOOD thing:

My all-time favorite line in a song is from These Foolish Things:

The winds of March that make my heart a dancer…

I have NO clue what that means, and hope I never find out. All I know is that it gives me TINGLES…

‘Charlie Christian got me in a world of trouble’—-me

 
     
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Jun 15, 2017, 11:08 AM

My opinion; less caffeine for the the drummer! The kick is WAY too much in my face during the into as well as the cymbal play and snare. I say let it all come up when the guitar kicks in at :49, then mellow out again either rim or even a brush? I presume it’s a track and not live drums so, I get it if it’s problematic to have it come up and down but, that’s my critique.

I think it’s a killer tune that simply needs some feel and sense of place on the drums. Otherwise, love it.

 
     
Larry Gude Joined May 23, 2017
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Jun 15, 2017, 03:19 PM

Thanks Larry. Caffeine. lol
I think you might be right about the snare being a bit too forward in its presence at the start. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll have to think about whether to pull back the kick or not. Perhaps early on it should be a lighter touch then lift up with the guitar as you say. I’m a bit of a kick drum, bass guitar junkie. I like em in your face and in your gut, but that’s just me. I’ll listen a few more times with the drums in mind. Thanks man.  :)

https://soundcloud.com/jennystokes-nz
http://www.evansandstokes.com

“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain”
- Bob Marley

 
     
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Jun 15, 2017, 03:35 PM
JAPOV - 15 June 2017 05:16 AM

I think John n Jenn are wary of going too heavily “theological/zionistic/christian”...etc.
Jenn was probably more focused on imagery and just painting a pleasant universally
acceptable picture :)

You got that right, Tony. The album tracks the story of a fallen woman (a drug addict) who, in the throes of dying, rediscovers her faith. With it, I’m reaching out to the fringes of faith where coming down all thee’s and thou’s wouldn’t be appropriate.

On a completely different topic, yesterday I heard AC/DCs Thunderstruck played on bagpipes. How weird is that?

https://soundcloud.com/jennystokes-nz
http://www.evansandstokes.com

“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain”
- Bob Marley

 
     
Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Jun 15, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jenny Stokes - 15 June 2017 03:19 PM

Thanks Larry. Caffeine. lol
I think you might be right about the snare being a bit too forward in its presence at the start. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll have to think about whether to pull back the kick or not. Perhaps early on it should be a lighter touch then lift up with the guitar as you say. I’m a bit of a kick drum, bass guitar junkie. I like em in your face and in your gut, but that’s just me. I’ll listen a few more times with the drums in mind. Thanks man.  :)

To be clear, ONLY my opinion but, I think the drums in total are too out front at the beginning. I’m totally with you on the in your face part. Just for this song at that point, I think it will give the song a better dynamic AND REALLY bring the thunder when the guitar kicks in.

My pleasure! Enjoyed the song!

 
     
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Jun 15, 2017, 05:30 PM

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.  :)

https://soundcloud.com/jennystokes-nz
http://www.evansandstokes.com

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- Bob Marley

 
     
Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Jun 15, 2017, 08:00 PM

I like the two cellos version! :)

 
     
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Jun 15, 2017, 08:57 PM
JAPOV - 15 June 2017 08:00 PM

I like the two cellos version! :)

How did I ever miss those guys? They’re fantastic! Just going through all their stuff now. Absolutely jaw-droppingly amazing.

https://soundcloud.com/jennystokes-nz
http://www.evansandstokes.com

“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain”
- Bob Marley

 
     
Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Jun 16, 2017, 02:24 AM

whole lotta’ love is fantastic!

 
     
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