The Goat, The Gnu And The Tumbleweed

 
       
 
May 23, 2018, 11:55 AM

I think I might be pushing the limits of just how silly my songs can get with this one. It started over on the Lyrics Library under the title “It’s Nice to meet You,” but I thought the new title better captured the profound daftness of the song.

https://soundcloud.com/themysteriousbeings/the-goat-the-gnu-and-the-tumbleweed

Any comments or suggestions welcomed and appreciated, as always.

[ Edited: 02 June 2018 10:24 AM by Gavin Sinclair]
 
     
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Gavin Sinclair Joined Dec 02, 2014
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May 26, 2018, 06:13 AM

Hey Gavin.

I’m only 5 seconds in and I stopped play to turn it down. It nearly blew me out of my chair. I’d consider lowering your mains volume a bit :)

Guh-new. That’s funny

“The tumbleweed’s humble needs” and “undemanding vegetation”—I like those lines :)

Two critiques really. The volume (as I said) and the length. I found that my mind began to wander in the middle bit about the gnu. You recaptured my attention with the tumbleweed though. I’m definitely not averse to long songs. In fact, I’m writing a 12 minute one now! If it’s going to be long though, it needs something to change through the middle.

It’s charming in a way that only you can write, Gavin. I love the way your mind works. Can you tell me about the piano. Is that you playing (if so, it’s amazing) or is that some clever computer gizmo?

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“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain”
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Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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May 26, 2018, 09:34 AM

Hi Jen,

Thanks for listening and commenting. I take your point about the volume. It’s hard to know where to set that actually, because you never know what volume setting people will be listening at. It’s particularly difficult on SoundCloud, as it is the only major streaming service that doesn’t “normalize” the volume level. On other services, like Spotify, etc., the processing magic they do sets everything to a constant volume. At least, that’s what I read somewhere. I had it set to a level where it was comfortable about three clicks before maximum on my iPhone. Maybe I could take it down a click. It would be nice to know what others think.

It is long, just under 5 minutes if I hadn’t gone for a fade out; just over 5 with the fade out. When I finished, I was surprised that it was that long. It felt shorter. I’m not sure what I can do about that. There really isn’t any superfluous stuff that could be cut, except maybe the couple of bars between the end of the chorus and the next verse, but I felt that was needed to allow the singer a pause to catch his breath. I had hoped the lyrics would be weird enough to keep the listener’s attention and the melody would carry it along. Maybe not. The only way I can think of to vary it would be to take the same approach I took in the last thing l posted here, where I stripped the melody in the middle verse down to just the beat and spoke over it:
https://soundcloud.com/themysteriousbeings/liberal-elite

I’m not sure that would work so well here though, because this is really a “sing-along” kind of melody. In fact, I kind of wish I was a performer - this would be a nice song to close a show with. A kind of cheery goodbye to the audience that they could hum afterwards to the great annoyance of their friend who came to give them a ride home.

As for the piano, that’s our keyboard ace, Gene Poole-Skimmings. He is available for hire and can be reached by mail at 1 Hard Drive, Toshiba, North Carolina, USA. ;)

[ Edited: 02 June 2018 10:25 AM by Gavin Sinclair]
 
     
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May 26, 2018, 04:23 PM

“...that’s our keyboard ace, Gene Poole-Skimmings.” Okay. You want to be mysterious. I get it. but Grrr Gavin! :)

I see the problem you face with cutting stuff. That actually wasn’t what I was suggesting. Instead, you could add some variety to the landscape in the middle of the song. Perhaps you could vary the arrangement there or vary your delivery (up or down) or maybe insert some sound effects (stock moving???) that would act as a audio cup-o-tea to the listener who is along for your goat, gnu ramble.

As always, your lyrics are delightful.

Jen

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Jenny Stokes Joined Sep 24, 2015
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May 29, 2018, 06:23 AM

Hi Gavin,

it took me some time to respond. Well .. I am with Jenny. I LOVE the lyrics. I like your melody. Hmm… I am not so sure about the Arrangement tough. I was hoping for something funny, in a way, like in the style of Reinhard Mey we have mentioned in the lyrics post or something in an old-fashinioned style. Something with some focus on the lyrics. I think the piano is a bit too much…..

Don´t know. I was sooo blown away from the lyrics. Is music, if I may speak freely ... so lala ... the piano needs my full attention and the lyrics get a bit lost ...

Sorry ... but that´s just what I hear ... hope it´s ok to give an honest opinion ...

...every once in a while, I get in the mood or so…and start to play..

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May 29, 2018, 05:52 PM

How dare you give me an honest opinion, Martin? Don’t you know you’re supposed just to say it’s great? LOL.

Seriously, I completely understand what you’re saying. I hadn’t thought of the arrangement going in this direction either. It just kind of happened, probably because it’s more like my normal style - strong melody, sing-along chorus. When I started, I was thinking more of just guitar and maybe a discreet bass, with the whole emphasis on the lyrics. That would be more along the lines of Reinhard Mey, as you say. When I get time, I’m going to try it like that and maybe post the two versions side by side here and see what people think.

I also take your point about the piano. It is too elaborate in the first and third verses and does distract from the lyrics. In this version, I will change that, maybe leaving it as it is for the choruses.

It’s funny how much people seem to like the lyrics of this one. They came to me quickly and easily. I might find the deeper, more meaningful lyrics a challenge, but it would seem that I have no difficulty in being silly.

And by the way, for those who don’t know Reinhard Mey, he’s worth learning German for :)

 
     
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Jun 18, 2018, 05:23 AM

Sounds like an accurate description of the audience at my last gig…

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